tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620511595417365920.post6813106171279021765..comments2024-03-26T17:42:56.553-05:00Comments on Fleetwood Mac News: REVIEWS: Stevie Nicks "The Dealer"Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620511595417365920.post-4891290580840297122014-08-18T23:23:20.984-05:002014-08-18T23:23:20.984-05:00I think this recent take on "The Dealer"...I think this recent take on "The Dealer" is much better than any demo I've heard over the net. Even compared to her voice of >30 years ago. Now I can't imagine how the Stevie of today could improve the original Blue Water. I will just have to wait. Anyway the best part of the new "Dealer" is the band or I should say the music. It rocks. I bought it and I find mysef playing it a lot in the car. Everyone who has heard it by incidence expresses the same sentiment. Wow- where did you find that. Is it new or something. It's rocking. What a relief to have a good 70s rock song again. Go Stevie. Great work so far. I'm still disappointed in track list but maybe you will really surprise all of us die hards. I guess your still saving all the treasures for later. Your gonna keep the mega millions rolling in forever!!!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12709796096912311277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620511595417365920.post-63539577786032990032014-08-12T12:06:06.871-05:002014-08-12T12:06:06.871-05:00Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I say bu...Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I say bullshit to the idea that any good reviews are because of who Stevie is! Just because you don't like it and find it "pedestrian" and "forgettable" doesn't mean that everyone does!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620511595417365920.post-38244553559905918352014-08-12T01:47:57.328-05:002014-08-12T01:47:57.328-05:00Very pedestrian writing. If this wasn't Stevie...Very pedestrian writing. If this wasn't Stevie Nicks the Rock Goddess, it would be dismissed as a very forgettable piece of songwriting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620511595417365920.post-61704161896027342014-08-11T18:57:30.896-05:002014-08-11T18:57:30.896-05:00I agree. We got The Dealer as She wanted us to ge...I agree. We got The Dealer as She wanted us to get it - nothing more , nothing less.<br /><br />She wouldn't release anything that wasn't right and how she wants us to receive it.<br /><br />I base this on the documentaries of how involved she us in all aspects of the writing, recording and mixing process and ROCK A LITTLE (the original) which she scrapped because she wasn't happy with it, spent an additional million bucks to re-record the entire album and released the version she liked and she wanted the fans to have.<br /><br />We should be happy she is releasing a new album instead of dissecting the work to death.<br /><br />If you're unhappy with The Dealer, between you and Stevie, that makes one of you.<br /><br />If you don't like The Dealer, don't listen to it.<br /><br />There will be some songs on the album you will like. Don't worry...be happy and spare us the continual bitching.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620511595417365920.post-72231566626019311972014-08-10T18:35:11.295-05:002014-08-10T18:35:11.295-05:00First of all, I kinda don't get why everyone p...First of all, I kinda don't get why everyone posts under the "anonymous" option when you can simply post "name/URL", throw a name in there, and leave the URL part blank. Makes conversations SO much easier. But anyway, I'm blue in the face and everyone remains anonymous so, so be it...<br /><br />Second, I wasn't kidding when I sensed that you were a true fan with some criticism. I wasn't being sarcastic at all...<br /><br />And I just did my math and see that you became a fan in 1978 probably when Rumours was destroying all the competition on the charts right in the middle of the disco era :)<br /><br />Interestingly, I was 12 as well when Stand Back was released and I absolutely fell in love with Stevie as an artist...<br /><br />Anyway, nice to meet you Stevie fan John!!!<br /><br />I just listened to Sad Angel again, and then The Dealer... My conclusion is that they are very different approaches to a song. Think about Lindsey's song Go Insane from his solo album versus the same song live on The Dance. Very different. It actually takes on a completely different dimension. The original is about going nuts surrounded by frantic music. The live version is an older, wiser man in an acoustical setting saying the same thing... but as a survivor. <br /><br />I don't doubt for one second that Stevie could have given us The Dealer as a foot stomping head banging blast of great rock and roll, I just think she chose a more reflective approach with minimal accompaniment. Jaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620511595417365920.post-71777512484328951362014-08-10T00:03:28.228-05:002014-08-10T00:03:28.228-05:00Jay -
You are very sweet and so I'm going to...Jay - <br /><br />You are very sweet and so I'm going to be real about who I am (I'm the guy who's going to buy it and bitch about it). <br /><br />My name is John and I live in Hollywood, California. I have been a Fleetwood Mac fan since I was about 12 or 13. I'm 48 so you do the math. <br /><br />I suggest people listen to THE DEALER and then listen to SAD ANGEL.<br /><br />So much of what I'm not liking about THE DEALER isn't so much Stevie's singing as it is the way she's been RECORDED. It's very unflattering. It's exposing her weaknesses and limitations and not showing off her power and strength. <br /><br />IYD proved Stevie still has a great studio voice. The production on THE DEALER???? <br /><br />Play SAD ANGEL and let's talk....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620511595417365920.post-69541093025929808132014-08-08T13:25:06.278-05:002014-08-08T13:25:06.278-05:00Anyone who is listening to music on BEATS headphon...Anyone who is listening to music on BEATS headphones should google how terrible of product these are! CASHCOW - Cheap to make, cheap to hear!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620511595417365920.post-63227321147036395002014-08-08T13:22:20.087-05:002014-08-08T13:22:20.087-05:00The the review that the woman From SHE TALKS - sh...The the review that the woman From SHE TALKS - she is complaining about her digging things up from past etc, when this woman's fav show and past time is watching the WEST WING! ha, lame reviewer! Lets see whats in your wallet!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620511595417365920.post-41958987982235922642014-08-08T07:30:33.746-05:002014-08-08T07:30:33.746-05:00No...it sounds clear. Your overpriced Beats is de...No...it sounds clear. Your overpriced Beats is designed by a hip hop/urban artist to make hip hop/ urban music sound better. Try exchanging your Beats for Koss, Bose or Harman Kardon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620511595417365920.post-6662377909932605052014-08-07T19:25:24.840-05:002014-08-07T19:25:24.840-05:00I personally love "The Dealer," but I al...I personally love "The Dealer," but I also think it's unfair to blast someone who offers an intellectual criticism on something. As long as someone isn't being mean-spirited they shouldn't be harpooned. <br /><br />I agree I think the production on the "The Dealer" is as its supposed to be; I like the funkiness of it. I'm so looking forward to this album ... and I'm almost looking forward to the 48-page photo book as much as the album. MplsMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16559454511654308597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620511595417365920.post-49890194880850909602014-08-07T16:50:15.503-05:002014-08-07T16:50:15.503-05:00I've been trying to find out the back-story be...I've been trying to find out the back-story behind "The Dealer". Does anyone know who it is about?<br />Many thanks to everyone here, especially for the person responsible for this wonderful site. :)Amy Condithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379873849088085638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620511595417365920.post-28661536851010135562014-08-07T07:14:38.779-05:002014-08-07T07:14:38.779-05:00I love you, too. I've wanted to get that off ...I love you, too. I've wanted to get that off my chest for a while but didn't think the mediator would post it. It got to the point where it was therapy for me to write it, even if no one got to read it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620511595417365920.post-27073655834001310032014-08-07T03:19:00.395-05:002014-08-07T03:19:00.395-05:00No, I think it's 57. All artists over the the ...No, I think it's 57. All artists over the the age of 57 years, 12 days, and 42 seconds get automatic universal acclaim :)))Jaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620511595417365920.post-7958684911287891942014-08-07T02:57:27.307-05:002014-08-07T02:57:27.307-05:00I absolutely love youI absolutely love youJaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620511595417365920.post-11414032042234565672014-08-07T02:47:33.818-05:002014-08-07T02:47:33.818-05:00Well, since our therapy session is going so well, ...Well, since our therapy session is going so well, I'd like to add (constructively, I hope) that it's entirely possible that whoever chooses singles for Stevie's albums since Trouble In Shangri-La might be slipping a bit. TISL didn't produce a hit single even though the album was great and sold well. On the other hand, the dance mix for Planets reached #1! I thought Secret Love was a perfect candidate for a club mix, which might have bolstered the singles sales as well as album sales... but that never happened. Also, Cheaper Than Free and For What It's Worth didn't feel single worthy to me considering how awesome In Your Dreams (the song) and how gorgeous Italian Summer are. <br /><br />So my point is, sadly, don't give up so soon on the new album! The best songs will be the neglected ones...<br /><br />Anyway, your line about how you're gonna "buy it, listen to it, and bitch about it" screams pure Stevie fan! I love it! I hope you drop the anonymous postings and make up a name we can identify you with so in the future we can all be excited, depressed, and bitchy together ;) Jaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620511595417365920.post-43142880432895458202014-08-07T00:01:18.827-05:002014-08-07T00:01:18.827-05:00While I enjoy "The Dealer" does anyone e...While I enjoy "The Dealer" does anyone else think the production sounds a bit muddy? The instrumentation doesn't seem very "sharp" in the chorus' especially. Overall I'd give the song a B or B+, but the music is definitely blurry in some places. Maybe if I listened to it on huge speakers like Stevie and Dave recorded it it would make a difference, but on my Beats it's just so-so Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620511595417365920.post-31340503377765563312014-08-06T23:27:49.573-05:002014-08-06T23:27:49.573-05:00@MplsMike, Thanks, I absolutely meant that I feel ...@MplsMike, Thanks, I absolutely meant that I feel Stevie's vocals are weak on Tango in the Night. I love parts of Seven Wonders, but there are other parts where I can't help but think of the word "caterwauling," which I know isn't exactly complementary... I should probably give Welcome to the Room, Sara a listen again though because honestly for some reason I just haven't listened to it much. I think with that one, the music just never grabbed me. As for The Dealer, I guess I'm just not understanding why so many seem to think the production is so lacking. I would argue that all of Bella Donna and The Wild Heart have a pretty organic, no-frills sound, and this song seems like it would fit right in with those albums. Oh well, like others have said, we're all entitled to our opinions...ScottDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620511595417365920.post-85380802008561360692014-08-06T21:00:32.831-05:002014-08-06T21:00:32.831-05:00Everyone has an opinion...but they also have an a*...Everyone has an opinion...but they also have an a**h*le.<br /><br />Everyone on this blog acts as if they are THE Stevie expert knowing her personally and knowing her intention.<br /><br />I don' t know her but I have watched Destiny Rules and the IYD documentary and she IS very opinionated and vocal about every aspect oh her songs and gets what SHE wants.<br /><br />Everything she releases IS ase WANTS it and nothing less.<br /><br />The Dealer is as she wanted it to go out into the world. To say it's underproduced is stupid because only she can judge the outcome.<br /><br />Fact is, everyone here complains about just about everything. This is over produced and that is under produced.<br /><br />To all of you - she can never win, can she?<br /><br />If I were her and reading the posts on this blog site, I'd acknowledge the contributors to this blog with two middle fingers pointed upward, each adorned with a huge diamond and a whisper of "F*ck U".<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620511595417365920.post-59525371821746828522014-08-06T19:40:54.547-05:002014-08-06T19:40:54.547-05:00if u all are waiting for the 35 year old in the pr...if u all are waiting for the 35 year old in the prime of her career then go find her. thank you stevie for new music at 66.Briannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620511595417365920.post-9545204718528466652014-08-06T19:21:25.690-05:002014-08-06T19:21:25.690-05:00well i love it Stevie from a huge fan and that all...well i love it Stevie from a huge fan and that all that matters too me!! Thank you Stevie & Dave.Briannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620511595417365920.post-82460969720818455042014-08-06T18:02:11.248-05:002014-08-06T18:02:11.248-05:00I agree that the "critics" are being ove...I agree that the "critics" are being overly polite about THE DEALER simply to give Stevie the respect she deserves, but that's not necessarily a good thing for an artist - even at 66. Most of these "reviews" aren't really reviews, but excerpts from a press kit with a couple of glib blurbs - more like a promotion than a critical forum. I'm very disappointed only because I know she's still capable of wonderful things, as IYD proved. <br /><br />THE DEALER is a good song. Stevie's vocal is just okay, and I'm not simply referring to the more limited contours of her voice, which is expected with age. She doesn't sound as crisp and alive as she did on IYD. Fair enough. The BIG problem I have with THE DEALER (which I've probably listened to 20 times now) is the lackluster production. I'll refrain from being rude about it, but jeez - it's just a middle-of-the-road mush, as if Dave is phoning it in. The pacing is slower than it should be, the mix is muddy and there's nothing special about the instrumentation. This is the guy who produced SWEET DREAMS, HERE COMES THE RAIN AGAIN, WOULD I LIE TO YOU and all of those amazing Eurythmics classics? Hard to believe. <br /><br />I wrote months ago that I thought it would have been much more interesting to build modern arrangements around the pre-existing demos with the original vocals, so that we would get a "lost Stevie record" appearing like magic out of the mists. I was concerned that there would be lots of unflattering "before/after" comparisons between Stevie's voice then and now and that's exactly what's happening. I also don't like the cover artwork using an old photo of Stevie (old photos in the package are fine), which makes her seem frozen in amber and which seems calculated to lure in listeners on the basis of a youth she no longer possesses. It's the same ploy used for CRYSTAL VISIONS, but it worked on that project because those were old recordings. On this occasion, there's a decided Norma Desmond feel to it, as if Stevie were pointing up to the screen saying, "Isn't she wonderful? Isn't she beautiful!"<br /><br />Anyway - I'm gonna buy it and listen to it and bitch about it, but I'm really holding out for the new FM record, which I'm truly excited about.<br /><br />And I get it that people are super-sensitive here. If any of you ever wander over to Datalounge you'll quickly see that Nickslive/FMNews" is VERY nice and genteel compared to many other pop culture sites.<br /><br />For those of you who love THE DEALER - I sincerely hope you keep on enjoying it. I too am listening over & over - but mostly for the purpose of figuring out what went wrong....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620511595417365920.post-20203034877342331162014-08-06T15:51:01.894-05:002014-08-06T15:51:01.894-05:00@ Anonymous ... Some of your comments, even though...@ Anonymous ... Some of your comments, even though I love "Seven Wonders" and "Welcome to the Room ... Sara," are very valid. Stevie's vocals - not her voice, I actually loved the smokiness of her voice from the TITN/TOSTM era - on Tango are not good. I personally think it's because she was fresh out of Betty Ford and didn't give her voice time to recover after the RAL tour.<br /><br />As a single choice, I find "The Dealer" appropriate as a lead single because it's uptempo and has some energy and a wide variety of music going on. I very much enjoyed "Secret Love," but I've always felt (and I'll offer some criticism of my own) that IYD as a whole suffered because as a lead single "SL" was very adult-contemporary sounding ... like maybe it should have been the second or third single. That's one of the reasons I was so pleased to hear "The Dealer."MplsMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16559454511654308597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620511595417365920.post-91521418697245419202014-08-06T15:44:24.780-05:002014-08-06T15:44:24.780-05:00I think it's important to recognize criticism....I think it's important to recognize criticism. Basenji02, it's perfectly fine that you express you don't like "The Dealer" as a song/lead single. Everyone's entitled to their opinion. I think you'll find very few (if any) diehard fans who love every single song their favorite singer/songwriter has released. I think the backlash against "trolling" on this message board comes in response to mean comments to others. The fact is many people do not know (or at least they do not demonstrate they know) how to criticize effectively. For example, if you tell me "I don't care for 'The Dealer' because I don't think the harmonies are laid out very well, or there's too much piano..." or something else to that effect, then I think rational people can accept that as valid criticism. Unless you are bashing others or just being downright mean I certainly don't think you'd be guilty of trolling.MplsMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16559454511654308597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620511595417365920.post-62262399551859113482014-08-06T15:18:28.312-05:002014-08-06T15:18:28.312-05:00I was underwhelmed on first coupla listens...but h...I was underwhelmed on first coupla listens...but haven't stopped listening to it and now, a day later I really like it actually. Will it be on my Stevie playlist on my iPhone? Probably not. But I'm way too excited about the project Tonynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620511595417365920.post-57823675801708675252014-08-06T15:11:33.264-05:002014-08-06T15:11:33.264-05:00Don't all artists that are over 65 get good re...Don't all artists that are over 65 get good reviews on whatever they do just out of respect for how long they have been performing? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com